Phil Madeira—plus Jimmy Abegg and Ben Pearson

 

This episode features an extended interview with renowned musician and songwriter Phil Madeira. Phil comes on to talk about how his band Red Dirt Boys (backup band for Emmylou Harris) is doing a crowdfunding campaign for two new albums. But he also tells us about his storied career in the music business, how he found himself being the band leader for Rick Elias' tribute concert, and why he liked Rich Mullins but not his music. Please check out Phil's website for more of his story and where to purchase his music (or his Bandcamp page). The episode also features a longer version of Jimmy Abegg and Ben Pearson's reflections about Rick Elias, an excerpt of which was in our previous episode (which you can listen to here).

Ben Pearson and Jimmy Abegg

Phil is a multi-instrumentalist and consummate studio musician (recording for Emmylou, Phil Keaggy, Amy Grant, Charlie Peacock, Buddy and Julie Miller, and so many others), but he is also a prolific songwriter, having his songs recorded by the likes of Garth Brooks, The Civil Wars, and Bruce Hornsby. A genre shapeshifter, Madeira offers a candid (nearly unfiltered!) look at the life of an artist and his view of the world. You can catch him playing music every week on Facebook with his Sunday Night Live performances.

Here is the time Phil photobombed Joe when he was getting a picture with Jimmy Abegg (and devoted Between the Songs listener Nate Eichelman) at the Rick Elias Jesus Record concert.

Here is the promo video for Red Dirt Boy's Indiegogo campaign:

Here is one of Phil's Sunday Night Live shows:

Here is a music video for Phil's song Gothenburg, from his album Providence:

And we would be remiss if we didn't at least give you the opportunity to watch Phil's highly acclaimed, career defining, Oscar worthy role as Hack the Clown in Steve Taylor's Newsboys film Under the Big Top. (And we also want you to remember just how many times Chris watched this film as a kid and thus how deeply Phil is burned into his consciousness): 

Remembering Rick Elias

April 2, 2021 is the two year anniversary of the death of Rick Elias. This episode is a tribute to his life and work and features a long list of people sharing their stories about all the beautiful, conflicted moments they got to share with him over the years. It's also the beginning of a series we are doing at Between the Songs about his music over the coming months. 

Husband and father, artist, guitarist, singer-songwriter, rocker, producer, and guy who naturally knew how to tick people off while still loving them, in the Rich Mullins universe Rick was of course a key member of A Ragamuffin Band, playing on a number of Mullins' records and being his perennial touring guitarist and singer. However, after Mullins' death Rick stepped in to not only lead A Ragamuffin Band but also produced the iconic Jesus Record album. He was already an established artist when he met Mullins, having recorded a couple of critically lauded albums (Rick Elias & The Confessions and Ten Stories), and would go on to have the opportunity to write songs for and play on the beloved That Thing You Do! soundtrack.

Joe with Rick in Lancaster when
he was 19 years old.

There's a lot more we can say about him, but for now we are going to let the stories and memories of those who love him speak for themselves. We were absolutely blown away by the responses from people wanting to share about Rick. On this episode you will hear from: Jimmy Abegg, Aaron Smith, Mark Robertson, Phil Madeira, Ben Pearson, Phil Keaggy, Margaret Becker, Randy Stonehill, Bryan Duncan, Carolyn Arends, Mitch McVicker, Sammy Horner, Chris Hauser, Luis Alberto Urrea, Marc Intravaia, Brian Mason, Johnathan Schaech, Regie Hamm, Scott Rogness, Alyssa Loukota Stebbing, Mark Hollingsworth, Chris Taylor, and Warren Pettit.

 

Music featured in this episode:

The Word is Love (Live in Holland)

Do Ya (Demo)

Dance With me Tonight (Live from Studio B)

My Deliver (Live from Studio B)

Man of No Reputation (from Blink UK version)

Work You Began Documentary Special

This episode features an interview with filmmaker Andrew Montonera about the new Rich Mullins documentary "The Work You Began: The Last Days of Rich Mullins." The film features new interviews with artists and friends, as well as the family he stayed with in the weeks before he died, and offers the stories surrounding the last concert he gave, the recording of Mitch McVicker's first album, and how the songs of the Jesus Record came together. It can be viewed at the Ragamuffin Archive Youtube page.

It's been a long time since our last episode and so we make sure to give at least a halfway decent explanation as to why that is during the episode. But other than the interview with Andrew, the episode features a discussion about the film, a brief preview of upcoming episodes (you heard that right!), vague hints of what Joe and Chris are up to regarding future projects in the Mullinsverse (TM 2021!), and some of the projects Chris has released over the years. Scroll down past the episode to view some pictures of where the Jesus Record Demos were recorded and for links to Chris' writing and music. You can listen to the previous episode that Andrew was a guest on here: An Inside Look at the Lost LeSEA Tapes.

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You can also view the film here:

 

The historic First Universalist Church of Elgin, IL, the location where Rich Mullins taped The Jesus Record demos on September 10, 1997. Photographs taken by Joe during a visit in 2016:

And the former location of Roswell East recording studios, where Rich and Mark Roberson produced Mitch’s first album.

In 2019 Chris wrote and published a book on the history and traditions of the 12 Days of Christmas (he's available for speaking engagements!). If you want an autographed copy you can email him at cmarch34@gmail.com, or go the normal routes:

Amazon
Christian Book Distributors
Wipf and Stock
Barnes and Noble
Google Play
Faithlife
Cokesbury
Thrift Books

Chris has composed the music for a new iphone game called Driftr. It's fun, free, and you should play!

Chris has also helped produce and be a co-host on the new podcast Tent Theology with Stephen Backhouse, a political theologian.

Finally, Chris released an EP of instrumental Christmas music. It's mostly retro-synthesizer music (with well known songs) and any money he makes will go to a good cause.

BONUS: Andrew Osenga and Jeremy Casella

Our next bonus episode features interviews with Andrew Osenga and Jeremy Casella, two artists greatly affected by Rich Mullins' work, and who are currently trying to fund their new albums on Kickstarter (see the links below). Joe was able to talk with Osenga on KHAC last fall in the lead up to the Window Rock Tribute Concert and Chris spoke to Casella a few weeks ago for PostConsumer Reports (the full interview with is available here). Please check out their Kickstarter pages and consider supporting their work:
Andrew Osenga's Kickstarter for new album The Painted Desert
Jeremy Casella's Kickstarter for new album Spirit

You can find out about more of their music and other projects here:
http://www.andrewosenga.com/
https://www.everybodypivots.com/
https://www.jeremycasella.com/


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Related Episodes:
Andrew Osenga's Interview with PostConsumer Reports
Dave Trout of UTR Media and Podcasts
Bonus: Lost Rich Mullins Interview From 1992

Mark Robertson of Prayer Flags, This Train, and the Ragamuffin Band
BONUS: Matt Walden with the St. Rich Beard Oil story and the Andrew Peterson Liturgy Legacy Tribute Concert 
Ep 3: The Window Rock Tribute Concert Q&A
BONUS: Eric Hauck Interview and Supporting the Window Rock Tribute
BONUS: Andrew Greer on the New Rich Mullins Book and an Escape to the Lake Recap

Ep 2: Zion's Behold the Man with Beth Snell Lutz

BONUS: An inside look at the lost LeSEA tapes with Andrew Montonera

Ep 1: Introduction, Jimmy Abegg, and the Be God's Project 


A few of the songs used in this episode came from the Window Rock Tribute Concert. You can stream the whole concert film here:

20 Year Tribute To Rich Mullins from Little Brown Dog Productions on Vimeo.

BONUS: Lost Rich Mullins Interview from 1992

A photo of Mullins the day he visited the KHAC studio. Chuck Harper is on the bottom middle.

To start the new year we have a very special bonus episode featuring a lost interview of Rich Mullins from 1992. A tape was recently discovered at KHAC radio (where Joe works) that contains an interview Mullins did with Chuck Harper (of Western Indian Ministries and Christ For Native Youth) a few years before Mullins moved out to the Navajo nation to do ministry work. In their conversation you can hear the seeds of the idea for moving to Window Rock as well as a brilliant observation from Mullins about the Window Rock itself as a metaphor for the love of God. The interview originally aired on KHAC but since then has not been heard except for a few snippets.

On top of this, the episode features an interview with filmmaker Larry Handley of Little Brown Dog Productions who filmed and edited the concert film of the 20th Anniversary Window Rock Tribute Concert, which you can stream below or watch on Vimeo.

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20 Year Tribute To Rich Mullins from Little Brown Dog Productions on Vimeo.

Previous Episodes:
Mark Robertson of Prayer Flags, This Train, and the Ragamuffin Band
BONUS: Matt Walden with the St. Rich Beard Oil story and the Andrew Peterson Liturgy Legacy Tribute Concert 
Ep 3: The Window Rock Tribute Concert Q&A
BONUS: Eric Hauck Interview and Supporting the Window Rock Tribute
BONUS: Andrew Greer on the New Rich Mullins Book and an Escape to the Lake Recap

Ep 2: Zion's Behold the Man with Beth Snell Lutz

BONUS: An inside look at the lost LeSEA tapes with Andrew Montonera

Ep 1: Introduction, Jimmy Abegg, and the Be God's Project